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Eschatology Forum – A Reminder for This Weekend, October 17-18 in O’Fallon Mo.

by Alan Kurschner October 15, 2008
written by Alan Kurschner

Oil Station Ministries will be hosting an “Eschatology Series” October 17th and 18th. We have invited three guest presenters to provide a biblical perspective on their view of eschatology. Dr. Charles Cooper, Director of Pre-Wrath Resource Institute, will provide the biblical support for the Dispensational Pre-Wrath View. Steve Gregg, author of the commentary “Revelation : Four Views: A Parallel Commentary” and Host of The Narrow Path radio program, will provide a biblical perspective on the A-millennial Partial Preterist View, and Thomas Ice will provide a biblical perspective for the Dispensational Pre-Tribulation View.
Our Guests will be asked to provide the positive biblical and historical support for their view of the following:
1. Daniel’s 70 weeks
2. The Great Tribulation
3. The 2nd Coming
4. The Rapture
5. Final Judgment
6. Millennium
After the final presenter speaks to the topic, the audience will be allowed to ask questions or provide written questions to the moderator. Questions not answered in the available time, will be deferred to Saturday evening. Additionally, each presenter will have the opportunity to provide the history of their view, early evidences in church history, etc. Each speaker will have a follow-up period of 30 minutes to discuss a topic of their choice in favor of their view.
Saturday evening will be a time of question and answers followed by individual closing remarks.
The event Schedule:

Friday – Oct 17th 7:00pm – 9:45pm
Saturday – Oct 18th 9:00am – 9:30pm with breaks for Lunch and Dinner
Admission is Free
Location: Calvary Chapel O’Fallon: 84 Bubble Drive, Suite 700, O’Fallon Mo, 63368
Location interactive Map located at: http://www.calvarychapelofallon.org/

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Does 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Mention the Rapture? – A Refutation of the Pretribulational “Departure” Argument

by Alan Kurschner October 13, 2008
written by Alan Kurschner

“Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion (apostasia) comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction” – 2Th 2:3 ESV (some versions render “rebellion” as “apostasy” or “falling away”)

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 has been the nemesis for Pretribulationism. Or what I refer to as the 800-pound gorilla sitting on the pretribulationist’s desk. Why is this? This Biblical passage has convinced more ex-pretribulationists that their position was wrong than any other Bible passage. The reason for this is straightforward: The fundamental premise of pretribulationism is that there cannot be any prophesied events that must take place before the rapture, and consequently they believe in the novel idea of what has come to be called the “any moment” rapture (a.k.a. imminence). Contra Paul in his unambiguous statement in v. 3 has lead many to reject imminence and thereby understand that there will be in fact at least a couple of key monumental events that will happen before the rapture.

There have been several pretrib attempts to get around the plain meaning of this Biblical text, but there has been one in particular that is indeed the most strained. Nevertheless, though I would rather spend my time responding to the best arguments out there that the other side has, it is my polemical philosophy that if God’s people are being influenced by any particular argument it should be responded to — even if that argumentation is really bad, and even when their own scholars would reject such reasoning (as we will see in this case).

This past January at the Prewrath Conference I gave a series of lectures on Thessalonians. In one of them I focused particularly on the pretrib argument that the Greek word behind “rebellion” (apostasia, ἀποστασία) can have a meaning of a “physical and spatial departure,” thereby suggesting that Paul has the rapture in mind when he uses this word in this verse.

What follows are my notes from the lecture. I have adapted them and given some transitions between points since they were originally given via PowerPoint slides.

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Some pretribulationists argue that the word “rebellion” (apostasia, ἀποστασία) means “departure” and thus is denoting the rapture.

That is, rather than seeing “rebellion” (apostasia) as a religious departure, many pretrib teachers have interpreted it as a “spatial departure,” I.e. the Rapture.

This view was first introduced in 1895 by J. S. Mabie and  popularized by E. Schuyler English in 1949.

In their first appeal they try to support this argument by noting earlier versions:

Pretrib proponents have pointed our that early English Bibles such as the Tyndale, Coverdale, Geneva, have rendered rebellion in v. 3 as “departing.”

The implication of the English word “depart” is suppose to suggest a “spatial departing” and thus the concept of the rapture was in the mind of these English translators.

But this is invalid argumentation for a couple of reasons:

1. Appealing to 16th century English versions to understand the meaning of a Greek word is naïve at best and only pushes the question back a step further: what did that 16th century English word “departing” mean? Since the English word can be spatial or non-spatial in meaning.

2. These same early English versions use “departing” at Hebrews 3:12; for example the KJV reads, “Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.”

Here “departing” is clearly non-spatial.

Further, there is no evidence at all that any of these translators or contemporary commentators on this verse understood apostasia as a “spatial departure.” 1895 is the first time.

A second appeal is to lexical evidence. But which side is the lexical evidence on?:

Here is where the rubber meets the road.

Is there any lexical evidence that would prove that apostasia can carry the meaning of “spatial departing,” let alone in 2Thess. 2:3?

Word studies always begin with proximity and works its way outward:

Author -> NT -> LXX (Septuagint) -> Koine (Pseuda; Josephus, Philo) -> Classical Greek -> Patristic

New Testament Usage

The term is used only one other time in the New Testament:

“and they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake [religious apostasy] Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs.” – Acts 21:21

LXX (Septuagint)

Four Times: Josh 22:22; 2Chr 29:19; 1Mac 2:15; Jer 2:19

Every time it means apostasy or rebellion in a religious or political sense — never used as a spatial or physical sense.

Koine Greek Literature

In Moulton and Milligan’s, The Vocabulary of the Greek Testament Illustrated from the Papyri and Other Non-Literary Sources, it is demonstrated that this term is only used in the political or religious defection sense — again, never used in a spatial departure sense (pp. 68-9)

Further, even Pretribulationist scholar Paul Feinberg admits, “If one searches for the uses of the noun “apostasy” in the 355 occurrences over the 300-year period between the second century B.C. and the first century A.D., one will not find a single instance where this word refers to a physical departure.”

Classical Greek

The classical Greek Liddell and Scott lexicon lists the primary meaning of apostasia as “defection, revolt”; and “departure, disappearance” as a secondary meaning.

The only example of this secondary meaning of spatial departure is found in the 6th century A.D!

Patristic Greek

The standard Greek lexicon for Patristic Greek Lampe has the primary meaning of apostasia as “revolt, defection” and gives only one example of a spatial departure.

This one instance is found in a NT apocryphal work, The Assumption of the Virgin. The earliest this is dated is the 5th century A.D.!

So What Do We Make of all this Lexical Evidence?

Here are the documented lexical facts:

There were five Greek sources we examined. The most weighty and important sources are the NT, LXX, and Koine literature–not a single instance does apostasia carry the meaning of “spatial departure.” Rather, every instance has the meaning of religious or political departure.

The last two sources (Classical and Patristic Greek) are the least weighty and important because they are the furthest removed from the New Testament.

There were only two instances from these two sources that have a spatial departure meaning — and both of these examples are dated into the 5th-6th century!

This is Why You Will Not Find the “Spatial” Meaning in Any Standard NT Lexicons:

BDAG defines this word as “defiance of established system or authority, rebellion, abandonment, breach of faith”

BDAG‘s predecessor Thayer

Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (Kittel)

The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology (Brown)

Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament (Balz)

A third appeal to the cognate verb:

So How Does the Pretribber Respond to These Lexical Facts? This is where the desperate leap takes place.

We have done a responsible thorough examination of the noun apostasia demonstrating that the term does not carry a “spatial” meaning in Hellenistic times.

The Pretribber will make the leap by pointing to the cognate verb form of apostasia, which is aphistemi, which means “to withdraw, remove, depart, leave.” It is used 14 times in the NT and is used both in a spatial and non-spatial sense.

And Thus a Leap that a Verb Meaning Carries Over to the Noun Form.

E. S. English succinctly states the pretrib reasoning, “since a noun takes it meaning from the verb, the noun, too, may have such a broad connotation.”

Davey goes further saying, “Since the root verb has this meaning of ‘departure’ from a person or place in a geographical sense, would not its derivatives have the same foundational word meaning.”

Cognate and Root Fallacy.

Cognates and Roots is not the way any responsible exegete determines word meanings (Imagine reading the newspaper this way. Or love letters!)

Rather, word meanings are determined by semantic range and its usage in context.

Even Feinberg rejects this naïve method when he comments on this specific word, “the meaning of derivative nouns must be established through their usage.” (emphasis his)

Perfect Case in Point: aphistemi

Apostasion is a cognate noun to this verb, which only means “divorce or some other legal act of separation.”

Apostater another cognate noun which means “one who has power to dissolve an assembly” or “to decide a question.”
Since these derivative nouns do not contain the meaning of a spatial or physical departure (as the Pretribber will not argue), there is absolutely no basis to assume that our target noun apostasia does as well. In other words, the pretrib cannot have their lexical cake and eat it too. It is first rank special pleading.

Moving on to the fourth appeal, contextual:

Since the semantic range does not include “physical or spatial departure” it is moot to even evaluate context — unless someone wants to argue that this is the only instance within 500-600 years of the origin of the term that it means a “spatial departure”!

Nevertheless…

To interpret the word “rebellion” in v. 3 as the “rapture” does not comport with the context, and as we will see it makes Paul unintelligible, even humorous.

First, Paul is making a contrast of what precedes and what follows. The “gathering” (rapture) and Coming/Day of the Lord is what follows (“For that day will not come unless”) the rebellion and revelation of the man of lawlessness. The pretrib view would have Paul in essence saying, “The rapture cannot happen until the rapture happens”! But Paul is clearly marking certain events as signs that must take place before Christ’s Return.

Second, Paul does not simply mention “rebellion” (apostasy) and leave it at that. But the verse begins with Paul’s exhortation, “Let no one deceive you in any way.” This is followed by “For,” which in this case is called an “explanatory hoti (ὅτι).” That is to say, Paul is connecting the exhortation not to be deceived with the fact of rebellion and the man of lawlessness being revealed.

In addition, some Pretrib teachers have attempted to argue that since there is the definite article “the” before “rebellion” it indicates that the Thessalonians were familiar with some previous teaching by Paul; but with no basis they simply assume it must refer to the rapture in 1Thessalonians 4. It is classic begging the question.

But what does the context show us?

Since this word in Hellenistic times always meant a “religious or political departure” should we then not be surprised that Paul makes references in this very context to “the truth” and “the Christian faith.” And indeed he does:

v. 2 “not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed”
v. 3 “Let no one deceive you in any way”
v. 10 “they refused to love the truth”
v. 11 “Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false”
v. 13 “through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth”
v. 15 “stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.”

In addition, the rebellion and the revealing of the man of lawlessness are not two disconnected or unrelated events, but can be seen rather as a single whole event with two closely related aspects; “first” can refer to both of the events in relation to the Day of the Lord.

And what is the connection between Antichrist and the rebellion?

“The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false,” – 2Th 2:9-11

This writer recognizes that there are other viewpoints of who actually apostatizes:

(1) A conspicuous increase in godlessness (or rebellion) within the world? (but the definite article before “rebellion” would suggest a more specific narrow event)
(2) A significant apostasy within the professing church?
(3) True believers lose their salvation? (but see 2 Thess. 2:13)
(4) Jewish in scope? (but the context here includes Gentiles)

My own position is number 2 since I believe the immediate context in chapter 2 of the Antichrist’s activity informs us of the identity of the rebellion. Nevertheless…

The Big Picture: The Pretribulational “Departure” Argument Fails on All Four Levels:

It fails on appealing to early English versions
It fails on appealing to 5 bodies of Greek literature
It fails on appealing to its verbal cognate form
It fails on appealing to context.

Even the most noted Pretibulational scholar John F. Walvoord was Persuaded!

In the first edition of his popular book, The Rapture Question (1957) he defended the “Departure” argument. But after considering some of these arguments put forth by Robert H. Gundry, Walvoord rejected this common pretrib argument which he notes in his second edition of The Rapture Question (1979).

Also, Paul Feinberg, “there is no reason to understand Paul’s use of apostasia as a reference to the rapture” (When the Trumpet Sounds, p. 311).

Sadly though, many Pretrib teachers have not followed this lead in abandoning this groundless argumentation.

Bibliography:

“Is Apostasia in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 a Reference to the Rapture?” by William W. Combs
The Church and the Tribulation by Robert H. Gundry
The many Greek sources/Lexica cited in this Article.

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Corrie ten Boom on the Tribulation and the Rapture

by Alan Kurschner September 22, 2008
written by Alan Kurschner

“CORRIE TEN BOOM COMMENTS ON THE TRIBULATION AND ON A RAPTURE VIEW WHICH IS POPULAR TODAY. SHE EXHORTS US TO PREPARE OURSELVES SPIRITUALLY IN CHRIST AND IN THE HOLY SPIRIT FOR THE COMING TRIALS OF OUR FAITH. SHE TELLS OF THE CHINESE CHURCH’S BEING UNWARNED AND ILL-PREPARED FOR PERSECUTIONS THAT BEGAN IN 1949 UNDER MAO TSE TUNG’S RED GUARDS.
MANY OF TODAY’S POPULAR PROPHECY TEACHERS ARE SIMILARLY FAILING TO PREPARE COMFORTABLE WESTERN CHRISTIANS TO TAKE UP THEIR CROSSES AND TO WITNESS AS OVERCOMERS IN THE COMING TRIBULATION.”

Read her letter here.

(h.t. Kristen Wisen)

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Ruth B. Graham on the Pre-Tribulation Rapture

by Alan Kurschner September 19, 2008
written by Alan Kurschner

“RUTH B. GRAHAM, WIFE OF EVANGELIST BILLY GRAHAM, COMMENTS ON THE IDEA OF THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE IN A LETTER TO DAVE MACPHERSON, AUTHOR OF “LATE GREAT PRE-TRIB RAPTURE.” RUTH COMMENTS ON THE GREAT TRIBULATION AND ON A RAPTURE VIEW WHICH IS POPULAR TODAY. SHE EXHORTS US TO PREPARE OURSELVES TO GO THROUGH THE TRIBULATION AND NOT NECESSARILY TO EXPECT TO BE RAPTURED BEFORE IT OCCURS. SHE TELLS OF THE CHINESE CHRISTIANS’ NOT BEING PREPARED FOR THE TRIBULATION THEY WOULD UNDERGO.”
Read her letter here.

(h.t. Kristen Wisen)

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The Prewrath Rapture Guys Responding to Mal Couch – Part 2

by Alan Kurschner August 24, 2008
written by Alan Kurschner

I continue to respond to Mal Couch.

“And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.” – 2Th 2:8

Couch writes,

“[W]hat they try to do is connect Christ’s appearance and His coming for the saints at the rapture with the fact that the antichrist will be around, and thus the church is here during the first part of the tribulation….[In 2 Thess. 2:8 they] camp on the words “appearance” and “coming” (parousia). Since many rapture passages use these words this proves that 2 Thessalonaians 2:8 is a rapture verse in their minds. But they are clearly wrong by the context. And it is true the word “coming” (parousia) can be used in both rapture and second coming verses.”

Since rapture passages use these exact same terms and since the apostle Paul does not anywhere distinguish this “appearance” from another one, the burden of proof for Couch and other pretribulationists is to provide evidence that Paul has a completely different “appearance” and a different “coming” of Christ in mind.
Further, notice the context of verse 8 starting in verse 1, “the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him.” Every pretribber agrees that “our being gathered to him” is speaking of the rapture. But they are inconsistent by not applying it to the remaining context which includes verse 8. They build a brick wall between verse 1 and verse 8. My question to Couch is: between verse 1 and verse 8 where does Paul indicate that he is speaking of a completely different subject? We are not told by Couch.
Not only the context teaches us that the rapture is in view but other important passages connect the appearing of Christ with his coming,
“Now, little children, abide in Him, so that when He appears we may have confidence and not shrink away from Him in shame at His coming [parousia]” 1John 2:28. (cf. Titus 2:13; 1Tim. 6:14; 2Tim. 4:8; Col. 3:4; 1Peter 5:4; 1John 3:2)
But Couch’s pretribulation tradition forces him not to see the context as the rapture. He cannot be consistent since that would require him to see that Paul is teaching in 2 Thess. 2 that the Church will encounter the Antichrist. Incidentally, the 2 Thess. 2 passage has caused more individuals to abandon their pretrib tradition than any other Bible passage.
Notice the amazing statement he makes next,

“Only rarely can you make doctrinal connections simply by the use of the same word(s). The most compelling key to interpretation is Context, Context, Context! And the context of this passage is clearly not a rapture context!”

Surely verse 1 is not missing in Mr. Couch’s Bible. Notice three parts of this verse, “Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers,” – 2Th 2:1
1) The verse begins with the word “Concerning.” Even a fifth grader understands that word introduces . . . context. So what context or subject matter is Paul introducing here?
2) Paul introduces a discussion of “the coming of the Lord and our being gathered to him.”
3) Who is he directing his teaching too? Is it “tribulation saints”? It is unbelieving Jews? Who is this discussion and exhortation relevant too? Paul says at the end of the verse, “we ask you, brothers.”
Context, Context, Context.
Couch writes,

“In the verses (2:1-7) leading up to 2:8 one must read carefully as to what Paul is saying. The Thessalonian church thought they might be in the tribulation, the Day of the Lord, because of the suffering they were undergoing. But Paul makes it clear that this was not so”.


How this is even relevant to his assertion that verse 8 does not apply to the Church we are not told; he gives no explanation, maybe only hoping it sounds good. It seems that the remaining part of his article dissipates into a handful of assertions without any effort to support them hoping that his readers will invest ultimate authority into his own word — not to mention his understanding of the Prewrath chronology of Revelation is so flawed beyond worth mentioning here.
I must note one more thing he says,

“Also what smashes their deficient view is the fact that the “restrainer” is taken out of the way before the antichrist is revealed (vs. 6-7). It is a settled issue that the restrainer is the Holy Spirit. I will not go into all the arguments on that issue here.”

I would flunk anyone who made mere assertions and then tried to back up their claim with the argument, “It is a settled issue.” I would be laughed off any debate stage if I got up there and provided nothing but, “It is a settled issue.” Pretribs can repeat “The Holy Spirit is the Restrainer” as many times they want, but it does not make it any more plausible.
Moreover, Couch is sadly ignorant of showing no familiarity with the literature on the issue of the “Restrainer.” It has been cogently argued that the Holy Spirit is not the Restrainer but in fact is Michael the Archangel.
In the April 2000 volume of The Journal of Theological Studies, C. R. Nicholl published a seminal article, “Michael, The Restrainer Removed (2 Thess. 2:6-7),” demonstrating that Michael is the Restrainer, which would prove to put an end to the “Who is the Restrainer” debate given his convincing argumentation. Since its publication, subsequent major Thessalonian commentaries are agreeing with Dr. Nicholl’s findings (not to mention noted Jewish scholars). His article has been published in his important monograph as well, From Hope to Despair in Thessalonica: Situating 1 and 2 Thessalonians, Cambridge University Press, 2004.
Robert Van Kampen has argued very well for Michael in his book The Sign. It has been my observation that pretribbers are not too eager to respond as even noted by Couch above, “I will not go into all the arguments on that issue here.”
In short, Couch has shown no willingness to represent the other side accurately, let alone seriously engage Scripture and the Prewrath’s interpretation of it. Why is this? I am convinced that the reason for this is that it is much easier to distort, ignore, and give superficial interpretations, than it is to engage God’s Word and fellow believers with maturity and competence. This should not be the case, but sadly it is when Tradition has a grasp on individuals for many years.
It is unfortunate that Couch ends his article with a personal attack against a brother in Christ. He writes,

“Van Kampen’s ultimate motive was from the fact that he just plain did not like dispensationalism and the pretribulational biblically proven rapture.”

Is there any need for presuming “ultimate motives”? No. this is uncalled for.
Robert Van Kampen was motivated by a love for God’s truth. And if another believer disagrees with his interpretation that is no reason to question his heart and thus attempt to somehow discredit him in the arena of the motives of his heart rather than the arena of proper exegesis of God’s Word. This type of fallacy only reveals Mal Couch’s bankrupt method of argumentation, and thus his pretribulational position.

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