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Prewrath

Beware of Self-Proclaimed Internet “Prewrath Advocates”

by Guest Contributors July 17, 2008
written by Guest Contributors

The term “Prewrath” is a popular term today and many are eager to latch on that term by appropriating it even when their view of end-times has no resemblance with the tenets of the Prewrath position. I have seen more than a few individuals on the Internet who claim to be “prewrath.” For example some of these folks would assert that the Church is raptured before the 70th week of Daniel. Sound familiar? Or the Church is raptured at the midpoint. Again, sound familiar? Some insist that they are prewrath and can hold to imminence!
What makes matters worse is that there are bloggers who have written articles outlining the different end-time views and when they get to the prewrath position I am left just shaking my head — and of course you will find no documentation for their definition of prewrath (this is on a weekly basis).
In an Internet age in which many people struggle to read something more than the length of a haiku, it may be expected that we find this lack of accuracy and willingness.
It is not that the Prewrath position is inflexible on all its interpretations. But it is a different matter when individuals deny definitional tenets of prewrath but continue to claim to be prewrath. This engenders confusion with God’s people looking for answers. It is dishonest, in short — and the abode of cyberspace is not immune from God’s eyes.
I thought I would provide one example of this to illustrate. There is no particular reason to single out this person, it could have been someone else. I asked Darrin to respond to one individual, Ken Schweizer.

There are some people out there using the term PreWrath, but in such a way that the PreWrath position is not represented. Zelma Pack, who maintains a Pre-Trib Rapture position, has a blog entitled The Rose of Sharon is Jesus. Zelma posted an article on her blog by Ken Schweizer entitled “Pre-Tribulation Rapture”. You can read the entire article at this link here.
http://sharonsrose.blogspot.com/2008/06/pre-tribulation-rapture.html
The interesting thing about this article is that Ken opens up saying that he believes in a PreWrath rapture. Here is his quote. “I must state, up front, that I believe in a pre-wrath rapture. That (in my opinion) places the rapture either before the revealing of the antichrist or before the sixth seal of Rev 6:12, but I am leaning toward the first or a pre-tribulation rapture.”
By using the term PreWrath, Ken causes confusion with the PreWrath position. One of the basic tenets of PreWrath is to distinguish between tribulation and wrath. Most PreTribbers just assert that these terms are the synonymous when they are not, and Ken does this very thing departing from the PreWrath view. Here is what he states: “The word says that the Tribulation is the wrath of the Lamb. Re 6:16-17 & Re 14:10. The word says that we are not appointed unto wrath. – 1Thes 5:9, John 3:36.”
So Ken’s appropriation of the term PreWrath is not in accordance with the established position. The PreWrath position maintains that the church will enter the Great Tribulation, but Ken rejects this idea. Later in his article, Ken actually concedes the difference between persecution and wrath. He writes, “There is no similarity between persecution and the wrath of God and any attempt to do so is ridiculous. There have always been tribulations for believers and the Church, but none brought on by The Lord Jesus Christ like when He opens the seven sealed book. That is reserved for non-believers.” So Ken actually has the blueprint for PreWrath in this nugget of truth. Now if we can just get him to see that this truth applies to the Great Tribulation contained in the seven sealed scroll as well as any tribulation for the Word.
The main point of departure from PreWrath can be easily seen in Ken’s opening line. PreWrathers know that the rapture will occur just after the sixth seal which ends the Great Tribulation and begins the wrath of God. It is something that is an essential part of the term PreWrath. Unless you state upfront that you believe at least at minimum:
#1- the church will enter the Great Tribulation which begins at the midpoint of Daniel’s seventieth week,
#2- the church will be raptured just after the sixth seal and at coming of Christ which ends the Great Tribulation, and
#3- the wrath of God begins after the rapture of the church has occurred,
then you cannot begin to think of yourself as PreWrath in accordance with the established position.
The point here is that we must examine when someone uses the term PreWrath to see if they agree with the basic tenets of the position. Just because they say they are PreWrath does not mean they hold to what is definitional of the PreWrath outworking. Thanks to Ken for allowing his article to be referenced so that others may study for themselves. I would encourage prophecy students to follow the link and read his article as it does contain many good things. Also, scroll down and read my personal correspondence to Ken which Zelma graciously posted for readers to see under the comments section.
Have fun and stay busy – Luke 19:13
-The Orange Mailman

July 17, 2008 0 comment
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How Important is Eschatology for the Believer’s Faith?

by Alan Kurschner July 16, 2008
written by Alan Kurschner

Stanley J. Grenz in his Millennial Maze writes,

The contemporary discussion of eschatology among evangelicals, fueled as it is by questions surrounding the significance of the vision of Revelation 20, ought not to be dismissed as being of no consequence to the Christian faith. On the contrary, by considering the question of millennialism, evangelicals are engaged in a debate concerning the climax of human history, understood in terms of God’s intention for creation. In so doing , the parties to the discussion are probing a theme crucial to the biblical message, the euangelion (gospel), the proclamation of which evangelicals have always seen as central to the Christan mandate in the world.
The anticipation of a climax to human history — a corporate eschatology — and the resultant question concerning the millennium as a specific stage in that climax cannot be relegated to the fringes of the biblical proclamation. On the contrary, it belongs to the heart of what the Bible intends to teach (p. 27).

July 16, 2008 0 comment
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Jacob’s Trouble – Jeremiah 30:7

by Alan Kurschner July 15, 2008
written by Alan Kurschner

The following is from the Parousia Newsletter, Spring of 2001,

Jeremiah 30:7 also speaks of a “troubler of Israel.” This passage is perhaps the most often quoted text by pretribulationists to defend their supposition that Daniel’s Seventieth Week pertains to Israel and not the church. Jeremiah writes, “Alas!” For that day is great, there is none like it; and it is the time of Jacob’s trouble, but he will be saved from it.” Does this prophecy automatically exclude the church from the “tribulation?” Who is he that is the eschatological troubler of Israel? Whose wrath will Jacob be saved from? These and other questions require a careful look at Jeremiah 30:7 and its context.
Pretribulationists are quick to offer their opinions concerning the meaning and significance of Jeremiah 30:7. However, few offer exegetical details to support their claims. What is offered is a litany of less than cogent arguments without explicit scriptural basis. The fundamental flaw in the thinking of pretribulationists is their insistence that Daniel’s Seventieth Week is (1) Jewish in focus and (2) seven years of tribulation (God’s wrath in varying degrees). Both points are supported with arguments of scriptural silence instead of explicit scriptural statements….

To read this entire seminal article by Charles Cooper, click here for download.

July 15, 2008 0 comment
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Premillennial Nuggets – Revelation 20:3 and Its Purpose Clause

by Alan Kurschner July 14, 2008
written by Alan Kurschner

“and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.” – Rev 20:3
I came across some helpful points on Revelation 20:3 by someone named Matthew Waymeyer, who is premill but not prewrath; nevertheless, he had some good responses to an amillennial interpretation of this verse that asserts that it “limits the binding of Satan during the New Covenant reign of Christ (i.e. Church era) to his inability to effectually deceive the nations.” Here are some selections of Waymeyer’s response here:

I do indeed take the purpose clause in verse 3 seriously. I wholeheartedly believe that Satan will be unable to deceive the nations during the thousand-year period when he is locked in the abyss, and I wholeheartedly believe that preventing this deception is the primary purpose of Satan’s incarceration. Neither of these presents any problem whatsoever for my premillennial eschatology.
In contrast, the purpose clause in verse 3 presents a significant difficulty for amillennialism. Because the amillennialist believes the thousand-year period of Revelation 20 is taking place now in the present age, he is forced to say that Satan is currently unable to deceive unbelievers (Rev 20:3) even though the NT says that he is currently active in doing just that [2 Cor 4:4, “In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.“]
Some amillennialists try to escape this dilemma by saying that the incarceration of Satan in Revelation 20 makes Satan less effective at deceiving the nations in the present age than he was prior to the first coming of Christ….
This same approach is taken by William Hendriksen who says that the binding of Satan is simply a matter of degree: “If during the present N.T. era the devil ‘blinds the minds of unbelievers,’ II Cor. 4:4, that was true even more emphatically during the old dispensation.” The difficulty with this explanation is that Revelation 20:2-3 teaches not that Satan’s ability to deceive was limited, but rather that it was eliminated. In other words, the text does not say that Satan will deceive the nations less effectively than he did in the past–it says that he will deceive the nations “no longer.”
The second clarification concerns my hermeneutical approach to Revelation 20…. [P]art of the grammatical historical method involves determining the meaning of key words in the passage you are studying. This is often referred to as lexical analysis. One of the most important words in this passage is the word “abyss,” because this is the location where Satan is incarcerated during the thousand-year period. If I’m going to understand what it means that Satan is imprisoned in the abyss, I need to know what the abyss is and what it means to be imprisoned there.
Part of lexical analysis involves consulting how the word in question is used elsewhere in Scripture. The “many other passages other than Revelation 20” which I referred to were those verses which also use the word “abyss,” and I consulted these verses not as a way to “deviate from the clear and normal meaning of the text” (as you said), but as a way to help me understand the clear and normal meaning of a key word in the text–the word “abyss.” In consulting these other passages, I discovered that the word translated “abyss” has two possible nuances of meaning. It can refer either to the realm of the dead (as it does in Romans 10:7) or a spirit prison (as it does in Luke 8:31; Rev 9:1-2, 11, 11:7; and 17:8). The context of Revelation 20:1-3–along with the reference to “his prison” in Revelation 20:7–confirms that the word “abyss” has this second meaning in Revelation 20.
In continuing my lexical analysis, I then look more closely at those passages where it refers to a prison for evil spirits, and I come to a significant conclusion: Confinement in the abyss in these other passages (especially see Luke 8:31 and Rev 9) means to be totally cut off from any activity or influence upon the earth. Therefore, when Satan is bound and incarcerated in the abyss during the thousand years according to Revelation 20:1-3, this means he will be totally cut off from any activity or influence upon the earth. In other words, his activity and influence will be eliminated, not merely limited as the amillennialist says. Since the clear and consistent testimony of the NT indicates that Satan is extremely active during the present age (Matt 13:19; Luke 8:12; 22:3, 31; John 8:44; 13:27; Acts 5:3; 26:18; 1 Cor 7:5; 2 Cor 2:11; 4:4; 11:3, 14; 12:7; Eph 2:2; 6:11-12; 1 Thess 2:18; 2 Tim 2:26; 1 Pet 5:8; 1 John 3:8-10; 5:19), this means the thousand years in Revelation 20 must be future.
According to some amillennialists, because Revelation 20 says that Satan is bound in one respect and one respect only–“so that he should not deceive the nations any longer” (v. 3)–he must therefore be free to partake in other activities here on earth. For this reason, according to the amillennialist, the list of Scripture references detailing Satan’s activity in the present age is largely irrelevant….
The use of a purpose clause, however, does not preclude the possibility of other purposes or results of the action of the verb. To illustrate, ‘if a warden says that he is putting a prisoner in solitary confinement in order that he will no longer kill any more prisoners, this does not mean the prisoner is free to steal and do other such activities’ (Powell 2001: 3). In the case of the binding of Satan in Revelation 20, then, the degree of Satan’s restriction is determined not by the purpose clause but by the language of the text itself, which–as demonstrated above–indicates absolute confinement.
As you can see from the greater context of what I wrote, the words “as demonstrated above” refer to my lexical analysis of the word “abyss” and the implications it has for a right understanding of Revelation 20:1-3, not to some kind of Scripture-interprets-Scripture hermeneutic which I abused to import my theology into Revelation 20:1-3. The language of the text itself (“he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him”) indicates that Satan’s activity on earth will be completely eliminated during this time, and the purpose clause (“so that he should not deceive the nations any longer”) indicates the primary purpose of this incarceration. But as I wrote above, this does not preclude the possibility of other purposes or results of the action of the verb. You can fight this on theological grounds (i.e., this doesn’t fit with your amillennialism), but not on grammatical grounds.

July 14, 2008 0 comment
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Prewrath Story From Tennessee…

by Alan Kurschner July 9, 2008
written by Alan Kurschner

Prewrath Resource Institute,
I recently read Marvin Rosenthal’s book, The Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church. The book was well written and I consider myself thoroughly convinced of his position. I greatly appreciate the labor and sacrifice represented by the book.
I am one of those who was previously convinced of the pre-tribulation rapture. I was convinced because every pastor and every spiritual mentor I’ve ever looked up to has been adamant about that position. It served as a litmus test between orthodoxy and heresy. This prevailing attitude was addressed in the book, so I know you understand. This attitude was deeply ingrained in me as well. If it were not for the high esteem I already held for the author, I wouldn’t have “wasted my time” reading the book.
I was impressed by the way Rosenthal laid out scripture after scripture in a way that gave corrected definitions to terms like, Day of the Lord, wrath, tribulation, Coming (parousia), seals, bowls, and trumpets. As prophetic passages were laid out alongside each other, the scheduling of events was made evident. As I read these passages now, it seems so clear that scripture teaches only one second coming of the Lord.
Thank you for your ministry.
Sincerely,
Douglas Fox
Maryville, TN

July 9, 2008 0 comment
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